Lincoln vs Vallandigham

[Gene C]

Fox News recently posted this news article.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democra...h-responds

I know I'm comparing apples and oranges, but
Does any one see any similarities to President Trump's current situation per the above article, and Lincoln's situation with Vallandigham?

Any wisdom for the President on how Lincoln dealt with his problem?
Please keep your response brief and respectful of others.
We are here to learn about and from Lincoln.

[Dave Taylor]

It is very hard to compare the political circumstances of the 1860s with those of today, though I would agree that both are incredibly destructive in their own way.

Ultimately, I think the current President, a man clearly incapable of following Gene's request to be "respectful of others," especially towards women, should follow these words from President Lincoln:

"You have generously said to me more than once, that whenever your resignation could be a relief to me, it was at my disposal. The time has come."

[David Lockmiller]

Abraham Lincoln: A Life, Volume Two, page 532:
Chapter 31 - "The Signs Look Better" Victory at the Polls and in the Field (July -- November 1863)

Lincoln was less jovial in dealing with state courts which seriously hindered the enforcement of the draft through habeas corpus proceedings. The problem became acute in Pennsylvania, where resistance to conscription was widespread, especially in the mining regions. By a 3-2 margin, that state’s supreme court ruled the Enrollment Act unconstitutional. At a cabinet meeting on September 14, 1863, the president (according to Attorney General Bates) “was greatly moved – more angry than I ever saw him” by the action of judges who had been releasing civilians arrested for obstructing conscription. He “declared that it was a formed plan of the democratic copperheads, deliberately acted out to defeat the Govt., and aid the enemy” and that “no honest man did or could believe that the State Judges have any such power.” He was, he added, “determined to put a stop to these factious and mischievous proceedings.” He even threatened to banish such jurists to Confederate lines, just as he had exiled Clement L. Vallandigham. Pounding the table, he “said with great emphasis: ‘I’ll not permit my officers to be arrested while in the discharge of their public duties.’” 35

Footnote 35 reads: Statement by the son of Robert B. Carnahan, U. S. district attorney for the western district of Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh, May 1896, Tarbell Papers, Allegheny College. [Please note that this important footnote in history might well have been lost but for the work of Ida Tarbell.]

[David Lockmiller]

"Lincoln was less jovial in dealing with state courts which seriously hindered the enforcement of the draft through habeas corpus proceedings."

The shoe seems to be now on the other foot. It appears to me that the people in Congress are "in the right" and complaining about a President of the United States who is "in the wrong." This is the way it should be in a democracy . . . with both sides expressing their opinions on important issues of government to the public.

This is "a government of the People, by the People, for the People." Let the people in Congress have their say, and let the President of the United States have his say.